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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 11:00 am 
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We dont want them to suck so bad they get rid of Herman and bring in another shiney new coach at the end of the season. On the flips9de we want them to suck enough that we continue the path of owning the state in recruiting.


One thing working against them imo is they just fired Strong after 3 years. If they turn around and fire Herman after 2 whoever they want to hire is going to think twice no matter how much money they offer.


This is their big recruiting weekend against USC.
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I think we need them to be about 500, beat a few weak sisters and lose to anyone that is legit. Mediocrity along with some false hope will keep Herman there. A&M is the top target for Texas players for the foreseeable future. TU would have to do something big to change that. I think them staying about 500 prolongs our advantage even longer.
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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 11:35 am 
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The natives are already getting restless in Austin. Even Ketchum said in Twitter what a big PR gain the Clemson game was for the Ags.

Their other guru...EJ or whatever is saying USC is a must win.

I think they may pull the trigger on .500 after losing to Maryland twice
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I want them to suck totally and forever, the fact is that Herman is good thru at least year 3, no matter how bad they are - they will win 4-6 games a year just based on crappy schedule. Mensa is the 6th highest paid coach and signed a long term deal that auto raises 250k a year no matter what - sips may WANT to fire him, but the cost of that may actually be too much. poooor sips. plus there is the who could they get?

to paraphrase the Stones: You can't always get what you want, but sometimes you find, you get what you DESERVE!

I think the sips are stuck
So please, let them suck
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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 1:50 pm 
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We play in the SEC. I believe we just need to take care of our own business, no matter what tu does.
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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 2:42 pm 
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corvettemike86 wrote:

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...you get what you DESERVE!


Remember when it looked like Herman was going to jump to South Carolina? My conjecture is the horn big cigars reached out to him and suggested he need only to wait a year. Coach Strong was never a good fit in the 40 acres and they thought their guy was building his resume' with the coogs.

We had a lot of talk about the Aggie big cigar "Gilligans" and the harm they were doing to our program. I think it's a bigger issue for the horns. Their's saw the wins and the potent recruiting Herman was doing in Houston and they wanted it so much they didn't look deep enough. Now they've got a team filled with players with artificially inflated ratings and coaching staff that doesn't look like it can develop what talent they have. They're back in the wilderness and they've lost their compass.
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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 3:07 pm 
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They're back in the wilderness and they've lost their compass.


Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group, IMO.
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Another reason tu may act on Herman sooner than later is recruiting.

We received a surprise commit from 5 star WR Demas after the Clemson game and word is The top QB in the state is close behind. Throw in the potential we take Sheppard back from tu among other momentum changing players



Itu has reason for concern
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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 7:49 pm 
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https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/co...1428464900
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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 10:18 pm 
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^

To call the Sumlin non-Johnny years "mediocre" is flat out wrong.

Mediocre is just under 500 or right at 500.

What we were recording under Kevin -- at least until the final season ... was good ... but not good enough.


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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 10:33 pm 
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Personally, let the sips oscillate between 6 and 8 wins - enough for hope, enough to keep him on, but not enough to matter.
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To call the Sumlin non-Johnny years "mediocre" is flat out wrong.


Apparently it is editorial policy of the DMN that no article about football in Texas will be published unless it takes at least one shot at A&M--Regardless of what the subject or which school the article is about... Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
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PostPosted: 12 Sep 2018 10:58 pm 
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Oh, please don't let "Mastermind" be fired! As long as he rides herd on the 40 Acres, the real Cattle Drive is being spearheaded by the folks with that "little slice of East Texas". I hope they keep him for 20 years.
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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 1:44 am 
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Ride herd...

The definition of "All Hat, No Cattle"...is going on at that place.
Gig 'em
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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 6:22 am 
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I agree we need to focus on competing and being a player in the SEC West. If we that do what happens in Austin will have little impact on us. Although a home loss to USC this weekend will be catastrophic for horn.
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TAMU85 wrote:
I agree we need to focus on competing and being a player in the SEC West. If we that do what happens in Austin will have little impact on us. Although a home loss to USC this weekend will be catastrophic for horn.


my t-shirt sip neighbor wondered by yesterday - as always light, friendly football talk ensued. But it was VERY clear that sips are close to crisis. I was actually asked what I thought was wrong with the orange. I offered up the obvious. too slow, mediocre O-line, weak secondary, etc. Also, a coach who looks like a deer in the headlight post-games....

It was made clear that a sip loss, and esp. a beat-down, embarassing loss, is likely to result in total psychological implosions across the burnt orange plain...

GO usc - beat the sips! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 8:56 am 
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Last year's top 3 class put sips expectations at an all time high. The problem is that their class did not address needs, but rather they loaded up on dbs and wrs. So an already had oline only got worse as their better players graduated. Then they lost key players on defense as well. Herman did a piss poor job of addressing those losses and it is showing. Add in the over inflation of sip recruits rankings and you have the perfect storm, all of sips own making.

Even after what happened with Mack Brown having over inflated recruit rankings the sip media kept it up with strong and now with Herman. It won't matter if Herman leaves at this point. They are now into the first decade of their 40 years in the wilderness.
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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 10:11 am 
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tu has started 10 members of their #3 recruiting class from last year. That should pay dividends at least next year.
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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 10:38 am 
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Listen to Ketchum

Hes not happy with Herman. He better hope Herman crashes and burns



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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 10:48 am 
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jamey wrote:
Listen to Ketchum

Hes not happy with Herman. He better hope Herman crashes and burns



https://m.soundcloud.com/nashsportsradio/geoff-ketchum-9-12-18
the immature, narcissistic, out of touch behavior that leads to making fun of opposing players that they tolerated last season is now rubbing sips the wrong way. And deep down, sips know Herman has not addressed their line problems. And that will be his downfall.
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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 11:16 am 
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The sip cigars won't tolerate a sub .500 season. My guess is that if the horns implode and lose any of their BDF games by 30+ points (a real Red River possibility), or they drop one to a cupcake, Herman will be shown the door.
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goodags wrote:
corvettemike86 wrote:

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...you get what you DESERVE!


Now they've got a team filled with players with artificially inflated ratings


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and coaching staff that doesn't look like it can develop what talent they have.


2 parts here.
--> 1st the artificially inflated ratings Isn't it Karma that these Ratings (as some have stated) is a result of their own doing. You get more Rival's Stars if you commit to the 40 acres. I Love Karma! But this "Toot Our Own Horn" creates expectations that, "All Chicken Sh1t WILL be turned into Chicken Salad. Whistle Think

--> 2nd develop what talent they have This ought to be the Measuring stick.
Hell, TCU doesn't get the Stars that the Sips do, neither does WV or Maryland for that matter. But, If you can't beat the teams that you "Supposedly" out recruited, well....
Just seems like they get to be graded against a false set of expectations....
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Jaybird83 wrote:
The sip cigars won't tolerate a sub .500 season. My guess is that if the horns implode and lose any of their BDF games by 30+ points (a real Red River possibility), or they drop one to a cupcake, Herman will be shown the door.


But just like in the Rules of Battle.
1 - Have a Plan!!!
2 - Have a Back Up Plan, because the 1st probably won't work.

I don't know who or when or how, but apparently we had a Plan right after the UCLA game last year. It was wasn't we want.... It's we're gonna get....
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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 6:08 pm 
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Let's see:

23 posts about a team we ALLEGEDLY don't care about.

23 posts about a team we ALLEGEDLY don't want to play.

23 posts on an AGGIE FOOTBALL board about a team not in the SEC.

It appears tu still lives rent free in many Ags minds.

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PostPosted: 13 Sep 2018 7:04 pm 
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As I have stated in the past, we will always compete for recruits with tu. That will never change. Hating them will never change. But that has nothing to do with playing them. We have no reason, other than nostalgia, to play them. It does not benefit us. Some people just cannot get past their feeling of the "good ol days."
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And some people can't stop thinking about them.

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