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Childress is a true underachiever. He may get the team to another game with the canes, but his five years have done nothing for the program that MJ could not have done.

So he won two Big 12 tourneys? Big deal - these were ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things, as we couldn't translate that success when and where it counted.

Yet again, the Aggies will watch the sips find their way to Omaha while they stay home and wonder what might have been, all the while whining and moaning about the Dave Yeasts of the world. TCU may well find their way to the CWS as well.

Are we satisfied with this result? I hope not, but I'll bet that Childress will be around for at least two more years.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2010 5:28 pm 
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I have a hard time disagreeing with what you say. However in spite of today's battering, the season isn't over yet. Wink Shame on you
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2010 6:16 pm 
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kellypo wrote:
I have a hard time disagreeing with what you say. However in spite of today's battering, the season isn't over yet. Wink Shame on you


Kelly - Childress is the Fran of our baseball program. He looks the part, says the right things, but he is totally out of his element.

Don't worry - we have no chance of winning three in a row in South Florida.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2010 6:33 pm 
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i dont necessarily disagree with you, but find it funny how you only pop up after a loss.

lemme check...
yep, this is your only post here since the texas series.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2010 6:42 pm 
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Fran ... dang I hadn't thought of him in a week (its been a great week) and then you had to remind me of that hack.

We should be better in baseball, period. We underperform badly as a program and have for a very long time. As for bellyaching about coaches, Fran got it all out of me. I net want to win and don't care who the coach is. We will see how much Byrne values winning.because I do think a solid argument for.firing Childress can be made.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2010 7:07 pm 
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Shocked

I am shocked by this discussion I tell ya...

Rolling Eyes

Liar

Nah, I lied...
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2010 9:38 pm 
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I missed the game today. What exactly did Childress do to have so many of you calling for his headso strongly? Didn't he just win the Big 12 Tournament? Is the fact they lost 10-0 any worse than losing 1-0? I think I saw some posters saying in the 2nd inning we should pack it in and save our staff when it was only 3-0. Seems a little hypocritical if that is the case. Just curious if this is a game frustration response or a body of work response.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2010 10:32 pm 
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If we don't get out of Regionals he should be fired. Regionals is for all those people who have wet dreams about Omaha. He finished strong and everyone was happy. Yes the team was on fire, yet what do think is going to happen now that it actually matters?
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 12:00 am 
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we still have at least one more game to play, and with the right bounces we might be able to extend it. In BB the chances are better than any other sport... Think
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 8:03 am 
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The team has been on fire. We are not an elite baseball team. We have never been an elite baseball program. We have been a pretty good program that puts it together for a couple of years, here and there.

With 11.6 scholarships, for everybody, it evens the field a lot.

Rob did a good job with this team down the stretch. Baseball is a streaky game.

Yesterday, we ran into a pitcher that had to have been painting the corner. The CF camera angles are not perfect, but this kid was appeared to be throwing around the plate on key pitches...it just looked like the ball didn't cross the plate on righties, but ended up behind the plate and he got the call. Regardless, the guys couldn't hit the kid.

The umpire was getting in a groove making those call strikes. When that begins to happen, and the kid is throwing some pitches that are almost unhittable, you had better get to him the second time the top of the order gets up or it is all she wrote most times.

We hit some nice grounders at infielders the second time through the order (dang you, Rob) and couldn't get to the kid or the umpire (dang you, Rob).

It happens (dang you, Rob). One game a pitcher shuts down the team. The problem is that this can now mess with our minds...and Rob may have little chance to change that in 1-2 games (dang you, Rob). This may throw timing at the plate off for enough guys that we lose another...and then it is over (dang you, Rob).

But, the guys may go back to hitting today.


Stripling didn't have great placement consistantly yesterday. He was getting hit. In another thread I suggested we get another arm in there in the third. I felt they had his number (dang you, Rob)...they did.


You have to look at the body of work for the team and the coach. Right now, Rob has gotten us to 4 regionals in a row (dang you, Rob). This has never happened at A&M.


So yeah, I guess those are the Aggie standards for calling for a head to roll...(dang you, Rob)
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Fla Ag wrote:
Childress is a true underachiever. He may get the team to another game with the canes, but his five years have done nothing for the program that MJ could not have done.

So he won two Big 12 tourneys? Big deal - these were ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things, as we couldn't translate that success when and where it counted.

Yet again, the Aggies will watch the sips find their way to Omaha while they stay home and wonder what might have been, all the while whining and moaning about the Dave Yeasts of the world. TCU may well find their way to the CWS as well.

Are we satisfied with this result? I hope not, but I'll bet that Childress will be around for at least two more years.


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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 9:02 am 
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Agdad78 wrote:

Yesterday, we ran into a pitcher that had to have been painting the corner. The CF camera angles are not perfect, but this kid was appeared to be throwing around the plate on key pitches...it just looked like the ball didn't cross the plate on righties, but ended up behind the plate and he got the call. Regardless, the guys couldn't hit the kid.

The umpire was getting in a groove making those call strikes. When that begins to happen, and the kid is throwing some pitches that are almost unhittable, you had better get to him the second time the top of the order gets up or it is all she wrote most times.



Explain to me Agdad how their pitcher produced fourteen runs thereby preventing us from having a chance at winning? I think you are missing the fact that an opposing pitcher doesn't scorew runs. You have no idea how that kid would have performed (or our batters also) had he only been up by one or two runs going into the 5th or 6th instead of up by over TEN.
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 11:30 am 
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AgDad,

With all due respect, we hired Rob to make us an "elite baseball team". You know, like our competitors?

Amazingly that with 11.6 schollies that other schools have consistently been able to be elite.

We hired him to get us to the CWS, and possibly even contend for the title.


Agdad78 wrote:
The team has been on fire. We are not an elite baseball team. We have never been an elite baseball program. We have been a pretty good program that puts it together for a couple of years, here and there.

With 11.6 scholarships, for everybody, it evens the field a lot.


So yeah, I guess those are the Aggie standards for calling for a head to roll...(dang you, Rob)
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 12:44 pm 
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Agdad,

Yesterday's showing was the tip of the iceberg.

It never was and never is about one game.

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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 12:52 pm 
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Agdad, some of us choose not to place a glass ceiling on A&M's potential.
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 12:55 pm 
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Dartmouth up 3-2 in the 7th.
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3-3 game delayed
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 1:27 pm 
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With all due respect AgDad, some say we "aren't and never have been" I would like to know "why not because we sure should be"

The Ags were never elite track either - now the Ags are a powerhouse. The Ags should be elite in any sport we set our minds to be.

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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 2:35 pm 
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Gonzales just put one into orbit to give the Ags a 4-3 lead... top of the 9th.
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 3:15 pm 
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Ags win. Gig 'em

Who'd a thunk it. With a bad coach and never having been there...who'd a thunk it?


With all due respect guys...

...I mentioned that Stripling was not hitting the plate very well. The other pitchers had rough days. That Miami team is a good hitting team...almost at 100 HRs and 100 steals?

Good pitching can stop good hitting. They pitched well and we didn't pitch as well.


Yeah, we need to get better consistant performance. No, I do not like our batting technique. I do not like the way we decide to go after runs sometimes. And no, my preferences or decisions will not come back to haunt me in public, either.

I'm not ready to give up on the Skipper just yet. I'm not ready to say it is not working, yet. Just my opinion. Just as good as yours on where we should/could be with this'n or that'un.
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Wow, some of you that don't really know A&M sports history should refrain from posting.

A&M not having a track and field history? A&M had some of the greatest track athletes of the old SWC! We're talking dominant Olympians.

Or is the only thing that matters National Championships?

The only thing you need then is the money and the will to spend it. Recruit many very talented track and field athletes in sufficient numbers and build powerful relays, then win team titles. You may never have an Olympic champion among them, but you can win many titles. Ask UTEP.

A&M used to not have the money, but they had some great individual athletes and won conference titles with them. That used to be enough to be considered quite good in track. And when guys like Matson, Mills, Cason, and others went to the Olympics, it was nice to have it mentioned that they were from A&M.

Childress still has not proven himself, though he hasn't proven himself to be a total flop either. He and BB need to sit down together and do a nice reassessment after the season and some staff adjustments or changes might need to be made. If increased consistency and better results aren't forth-coming, then more might be called for in another year or two.
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 4:26 pm 
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Rev,

Childress is hardly a total flop, but given the facilities, the fanbase, the recruiting advantages in TX, and the $$$, he should be doing better than he is. A whole bunch of coaches in Div 1 could do just as well or better than RC given these factors.

Bottom line - five years is enough time to prove oneself as a head coach. The sips were extra patient with Augie because he was a proven champion, and it paid off with a CWS title in year 6. Rob never had a head coaching gig before, and he has given us little reason to expect better in the future than what he has shown so far.
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2010 4:28 pm 
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The facilities? You're kidding right?
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How 'bout them Fightin' Texas Aggies?! Still in it (dang you, Rob) Sorry AgDad, stole your line.
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TNAg76 wrote:
How 'bout them Fightin' Texas Aggies?! Still in it (dang you, Rob) Sorry AgDad, stole your line.


Great job by the coach and the players - much deserved kudos! Gig 'em Gig 'em Applause Applause
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TNAg76 wrote:
How 'bout them Fightin' Texas Aggies?! Still in it (dang you, Rob) Sorry AgDad, stole your line.


I agree with you. It is amazing to me that because we lost yesterday that we throw out the window what the Team has been able to do in their last 20 games. They fought back and won BOTH games with their backs against the wals. This is not a team a dept and talent...but they have shown a great deal of heart over the last 20 or so games.
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